Membership
The Club is pleased to welcome Joan Brunt whose
late husband was Cpl. Arthur Park. Also Ann D'Arcy, John D'Arcy
and Roy Swain.
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It is with deep regret we report the death of the following
wartime members of the Regiment:-
Dr. J.B. Lilly, Norman Hazel, Jimmy Dowse and Mr L J Fuller-Rowell.
We would like to express our sympathy to
their families.
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General Sir Anthony Mullens
A letter has been received from General Tony Mullens
thanking members for their kind wishes on his giving up the Colonelcy
of the Regiment. General Tony was thanked for his past help and
assistance to the Creully Club.
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Liberation of Oostham, Belgium
A notice was in the August issue from Carl Rymen
who has been studying the liberation of France and Belgium requesting
information on Stan Moffatt which was sent to him. Since then there
has been correspondence and e-mails with Carl and the local historian
Dirk at Wasseven, Belgium regarding the liberation of Oostham. Carl
has written an essay of that time in 1944 for his diploma and has
a wealth of information on the action in that area. His 98 page
essay 'De Bevrijding van Ham' includes interesting information on
the campaign in which the 4th/7th were involved on 8th September
1944 at Oostham.
Franz Kopka was commander of 3 Squadron of the
Panzerjager Abteilung. On the 8th September he was ordered by General
Student , who was at Heppen, to recce Oostham to see if the British
had already infiltrated that area. He bypassed the village of Oostham
to the NE and then returned by the centre of the village. There
he saw a Sherman and fired on it. (It was the Troop Corporal 4th
Troop 'B' Squadron's tank and he missed it by the thickness of a
Rizla paper. Ed). He drove on and knocked out the first Sherman
of 2nd Troop, drove on and then was knocked out by Sgt Wilcox. The
whole crew got out of the panzer, but one of the crew later died
from his wounds. Kopka was evacuated to hospital but returned to
his unit on 17th September when he took command of the whole Panzer
Jager Abteilung and therefore was in command of the attack on 'Hell's
Highway' during 'Operation Market Garden'.
Arising out of the contact the question of a memorial
to Ken Frampton, John Hill and Stan Moffatt was raised. This has
been enthusiastically supported by the Town Council and the local
history society and a plaque will be erected in memory of them and
to Lts Richard C Luxmoore and Robert James Newman Ellis of the 12th
KRRC who were also killed at that time on the 9th and 10th September.
It is proposed to have a service at the plaque
on 16th September. There will also be a historical display of events
at that time. Outline details are included under Future
Events.
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50th Infantry Division Way by Ken Hart
When Cecil learnt that the road inland from the
beach at Ver-sur-Mer towards the "house with the circular drive"
was to be officially renamed "50th Infantry Division Way"
on the 4th September 1999 he swiftly realised that such an enterprise
could not be left to lesser mortals without the supervision and
assistance of the 4th/7th RDG. He therefore recruited Vince and
myself to carry the flag for the Regiment on this momentous occasion,
and on the evening of 2nd Sept. we duly RV'd at 1, Grasshills for
a briefing.
Promptly at 0500 hrs the following morning we left
Base and on arriving at the village square performed a smart about
turn for Cecil to collect his alarm clock. Despite this false start
we arrived at Portsmouth in plenty of time to catch the 0745 ferry,
and on arrival at Ousterham some brilliant navigation and tactical
manoeuvring saw us on the D514 coast road heading for Ver-sur-Mer.
Approaching the town the first building we saw was the Hotel La
Boussole where we were to harbour for the next three nights and
having noted its position we pressed on to our first objective at
the Museum where Cecil presented M Dupont with the Davis Escape
Apparatus he had acquired and its attendant documentation; these
were received with enthusiasm.
Returning to the hotel we discovered we were to
share the billet with Frank Camille, late 5th E. Yorks and the three
sons of the late Major Filby of the Herts Yeomanry RA who had been
a great supporter of the Museum at Ver-sur-Mer. Having settled in,
Cecil wished to try to find the house where he spent the night of
07/06/44. He had no idea where in the town it might be but he assured
us that he would know it when seen. After a fruitless walk down
a country lane heading off into the Norman countryside in quite
the wrong direction we arrived back at the hotel in time for a very
good dinner.
The following morning, having more or less shaken
off the effects of the calvados with which we had been generously
supplied by the Filby brothers, our first task was to recce the
scene of the afternoon's operations. Here we found Col. "Tesco"
Sainsbury and his troops making the final preparations for the events
and he kindly took time out to brief us on the proceedings. Being
satisfied that all was under control we proceeded to our next objective
which was to locate the blockhouse which Cecil and his crew put
out of action before drowning their tank. A street plan seemed to
indicate a road leading down to the beach in roughly the right place
which seemed a good start point. The road turned out to be a narrow
deeply rutted track which we proceeded down with much caution until
reaching a dilapidated beach hut and even more dilapidated concrete
bunkers. There was no sign of the blockhouse until we noticed a
patch of concrete rubble below high water mark when it became apparent
that the sea had finally completed the job Cecil had begun in 1944.
Congratulating ourselves on the success of the morning's exercise
we repaired to the hotel for a light lunch and to don our finery
for the afternoon's events.
At the appointed 1400 hours we RV'd in the car
park opposite the Museum to find that the representation had been
more than doubled by the arrival of Messrs Alastair Morrison and
Douglas Mann and by Brian Sutton who was accompanied by Audrey.
Also present was Ben Brown from the Isle of Man who had travelled
with the official coach party. Among the French spectators was our
farmer friend from Lingevres, proudly wearing his 4th/7th tie, who
greeted Cecil in the traditional French manner, and his charming
grand-daughters.
We duly arrived at the site of the ceremony and
dismounted. A ballot was held among the actual D Day veterans of
Gold Beach for the honour of unveiling the street sign. We then
fell in facing the covered sign with the Regimental Association
Banner, the assembled standards of "Les Combattants Ancien
Francais" and the band from the neighbouring township of St
Aubin.
After speeches by M Erhold Mayor of Ver sur Mer
and on behalf of Major Garton Ash who could not be present a trumpeter
from the band played a moving rendition of the French version of
Last Post and Reveille followed by two National Anthems and Ben
Brown who had won the ballot whipped the cover off the sign. I felt
it was perhaps fitting that the way inland for 50 Div. should once
again have been opened up by 4th/7th RDG of 8th Armoured Brigade.
The plan for the next stage in the proceedings
was simplicity itself. The dignitaries would walk off to a saluting
base some 130 yards inland and the spectators would file past the
parade to line the intervening route. When all were in position,
50th Infantry Division, all two dozen of us, would march past along
its nominated way behind the band and the standards of the Combattants
Ancien.
After a false start or two when the band decided
to go it alone the manoeuvre was successfully accomplished. All
now remounted their original transport and returned to the Museum
for a Vin d'Honneur in the Conference Hall where the veterans each
received a medallion and diploma, and after more speeches and general
reminiscence and chat we dispersed to prepare for the evening's
entertainment which was to be a celebration dinner to be held in
the restaurant at La Boussole. An excellent and convivial meal was
concluded after midnight.
Sunday's principle objectives were to recce a suitable
hotel for June 2000, as La Boussole did not have sufficient rooms
for our needs, and to visit the Regimental graves at Bayeux to place
poppy crosses, both of which were duly accomplished. We also fitted
in a visit to the Memorial at Creully where we were pleased to note
that it appeared to have been cleaned and repaired although the
caps from some of the flagpoles were still missing. (HHQ was contacted
on return and arrangements have been made with the War Graves Commission
for these to be replaced. Ed)
And so home on Monday by the afternoon ferry after
a visit to a local supermarket to stock up with wine, arriving at
Aldbourne at about 2300 to be greeted by Joy with a welcome cup
of real English tea.
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The Reunion 1999 by Vince Vincent
Twelve members gathered for the A.G.M. of the Creully
Club on the afternoon of Saturday, November 13th: Charles Batkin,
Bert Clarke, Geoff Cresswell, Sid Dalley, Bernie Glanfield, Alan
Gregson, Ken Hart, Cecil Newton, Tom Rennocks, Ron Scruton, Vince
Vincent, and Fred Woska. Shortly before the Meeting began Frank
Baker, ex-'B' Squadron, put in an appearance producing photos taken
in 1944/45 which were of special interest to other ex-'B' Squadron
members present, who had not immediately recognised Frank after
so many years. He was in Alcester with his wife for the day, and
although he could not stay for the Reunion on Saturday evening ,
his was a very welcome additional presence at the A.G.M.
The Meeting started with a reminder to the
Secretary Cecil Newton that an event of greater import than life,
death or AGM's was taking place that afternoon at Hampden Park in
Glasgow, the transmitted recording of which by BBC Television would
have priority at 4 pm.
Apologies for absence were received from
Ralph Butcher, Roger Levett, Eric Johnston, Buster Brown. Good wishes
were received from Pat Ellis and Bill True of the 506th PIR US Army.
The Financial Report, recording a healthy
balance of £1016.59 was presented and unanimously accepted.
The future of the Memorial at Creully was discussed at some length.
It is a matter of concern to those who attend the annual commemoration
at the Memorial on June 6th that the time must come when they will
no longer be able to continue this pilgrimage. What then? This question
has been raised in the past without, so far, a reassuring answer.
The Secretary reported that letters from Eric Johnston and Donald
Brown had suggested the assistance of the Royal British Legion should
be sought. He confirmed that his own enquiries in this direction
had revealed that for an annual donation, currently £50.00,
the Royal British Legion would place a wreath at the Memorial every
year. It was agreed that the next Creully Club newsletter should
include an explanation of the situation whilst asking members if
they would be prepared to contribute to a 'Creully Memorial Fund'.
Ron Scruton suggested that letters should be sent to Generals Gill
and Ford noting our concern and the Secretary agreed to this.
Ken Hart wondered if younger members of the
Regimental Association would be interested in perpetuating the Creully
Memorial Service.
Another suggestion was that the co-operation
of local French people should be sought , perhaps by encouraging
local schools to participate in some form of commemoration.
Next the itinerary for the annual visit to
Creully in 2000 was outlined and approved. The Secretary wondered
if the visit should be extended by an extra day after next year
to allow a more leisurely itinerary. No decision was taken on this,
members being given more time to consider this idea.
The arrangements for November 2000 in Alcester,
the same format as now, were unanimously approved.
The same unanimity was displayed when it came to the re-election
of our irreplaceable Secretary, Cecil Newton.
Finally, ever cognisant of the advancing
years, the Secretary distributed the proposed text of a Constitution
which he felt was necessary should the Creully Club at some time
in the future cease to exist, raising in particular the question
of the disposal and use of any money in the Club's coffers. The
proposed Constitution
was studied paragraph by paragraph and unanimously accepted.
At 3.59 pm with all of a minute in hand the
A.G.M. was declared closed and the television switched on. Later
that evening we were joined, as last year, by Roy Willets and his
son for the Reunion dinner.
The Remembrance Sunday Parade at Alcester
was as impressive as ever. The 4th/7th RDG contingent, marching
as usual with the local British Legion members, was part of a long
procession led by a band along the main street lined with hundreds
of onlookers. Apart from the ex-service men and women, the parade
included representatives of all the local civic services and youth
organisations. Prominent among the column as always were the worthies
sporting the colourful robes of yesteryear embroidered with such
insignia as High Bailiff, Brooklooker, Searcher and Sealer of Leather,
and, in two cases, the much envied title of Ale Taster. The duplication
of this office is perhaps a precaution should one of its bearers
be overzealous in the performance of his duties!
The Remembrance Service started with a brief
ceremony at the War Memorial just outside the entrance to the church
of St Nicholas. Scores of townspeople joined with those from the
procession who had gathered around the Memorial to honour the fallen.
The familiar notes of the 'Last Post' were followed by the stillness
of the Silence. The subdued murmuring of very small children who
had come with their families to share in this special experience
served not to distract but rather as a reminder of those poignant
words: "For your tomorrow we gave our today." The wreath
laid by Alan Gregson on behalf of the 4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards
was one of many clustered around the base of the War Memorial, the
vivid red splash of the poppies confirming the promise "We
will remember them".
After the completion of an uplifting service
in the packed church of St Nicholas where Ken Hart paraded the 4th/7th
Royal Dragoon Guard to the altar the parade reassembled for a brief
march past at which the salute was taken by Lord Hertford. Ale tasters,
official and otherwise, then repaired to the local hostelries for
a cheering jug before saying farewell and returning home.
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The Memorial at Creully
During the visit to Normandy last September
a visit was made to the Regimental Memorial at Creully. This was
found to be in spick and span condition after a refurbishment.
It was reported back to HHQ that the wreaths
laid the previous June were no longer in suitable condition also
that some finial caps were missing from the flag poles. HHQ very
promptly arranged with the Mayors office at Creully for the wreaths
to be removed at the appropriate time and also for the finial caps
to be replaced.
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The Memorial - Future Representation
An item on the Agenda for the AGM was future
representation at the Memorial after the Creully Club ceases to
exist which was fully discussed by the members present. It was resolved
that a letter should be written to Robert Ford and also to Ian Gill
requesting their help in formulating a policy for the future.
In our letter to Robert and Ian it was pointed
out that although there may be other claims for representation at
other memorials, the impressive Memorial at Creully should take
priority. Also the Mayor and Commune of Creully would be disappointed
if there wasn't attendance on the 6th June each year and it would
be a sad reflection on the 4th/7th RDG if this did not occur.
Robert and Ian have taken this matter up
with General Mullens and he has replied "I do not think
that we could or should give an undertaking that this should happen
every year on 6th June. With Regimental commitments it will just
not be possible. l am sure that if the circumstances are right,
every effort will be made to send someone to Creully".
Members who were contacted about this reply,
whilst agreeing that a commitment would be difficult, there should
be an intention. They felt that more should be done to obtain a
more satisfactory arrangement, such as the subject of representation
should be diaried by both the Regiment and the Association on an
annual basis with a view to this becoming a custom and eventually
a tradition. Also there should be a named representative of the
Regiment and a Committee member of the Association with the authority
to initiate representation at the Memorial when the need arises
for liaison purposes.
These points were not accepted and so there
is not an agreed programme for the Memorial's future. Ideally there
should have been an arrangement similar to 'town twinning' so that
the goodwill of the French could be reciprocated. The Memorial is
not similar to a plaque commemorating an event but a Cenotaph and
as such should have a Service of Remembrance as those in the UK,
each and every year. It is not possible to leave the Memorial at
Creullys doorstep and walk away. it would be insulting to the Mayor
and Commune and citizens of Creully.
The best way forward is to make our own arrangements
through the 'Creully Memorial Fund'. The Royal British Legion have
written to say that they would be prepared to lay a wreath at the
Memorial. This would of course require a donation and is to be expected.
The RBL will be in Normandy around the 6th June for many, many years
with their 'Remembrance Visits'.
Therefore as resolved at the AGM a fund should be raised to help
finance wreath laying at the Memorial when the Club ceases to exist.
On behalf of members present at the AGM an appeal is being
made for contributions to the Fund. It would be appreciated
if members could please contribute a sum, however small or
large to "The Creully Memorial
Fund"
(please make cheques payable to same).
A separate account has been opened specially for this fund.
This Fund will not be touched and accrue interest until required
in the event of the Club's dissolution. Should you want to
make a donation please
contact us.
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Club Report
As mentioned in Vince Vincent's report on
the AGM it was felt necessary that the Club should have a Constitution
to clarify finances, membership and winding up of the Club. The
arrangements for the finance of the Club have been in place since
it was founded. It makes sense to have the end of the year 31st
August as the report can go out with the September Newsletter. This
is convenient as matters can then be discussed at the AGM in November.
Similarly the February Newsletter is convenient time to issue same
for the June meeting.
In order to broaden our base the Club is
now open to relatives, friends and supporters. We have already attracted
a post-war member of the 4th/7th and have three members and supporters
from the King's Royal Rifle Corps.
Regular contact is made with Richard Frost,
secretary to the KRRC and also with Fred Breyer, secretary to the
London and Essex Branch of the KRRC.
Also the Club is in touch with Steve Pannell,
secretary to the 24th Lancers Association and with Don Straith,
secretary to Company 'A' 506th PIR 10 1st Airborne Division Association
USA all of whom we co-operated with in WW2.
Contact has been made with our Belgian friends
at Oostham and we are looking forward to meeting them in September.
Amongst our supporters we value John Etherington
from HHQ who is always helpful and willing to assist, Simon Robbins
of the Department of Documents, Imperial War Museum who is helpful
with material regarding the 4th/7th that is sent to him. Then there
is Paul Mills who shows a continuing interest by sending items for
the archives and who contributed a bench in memory of the 4th/7th
for the museum at Ver sur Mer; also Robert Todd who made a special
visit to Normandy to fix the plaque at Verrieres and Ian Hutton
the Pipe Major who comes with us to Creully - and many more who
help in various ways.
The healthy state of the Club could not be maintained without the
members support with the subs and those who attend the meetings,
some who overcome physical disability to do so - though raising
and lowering the right arm holding a glass will never be a problem!!
Members should not hesitate to recruit those
interested in the 4th/7th.
All the best for 2000.
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Focus on Feedback
The D Day Flash
Stan Brine - I was puzzled
when I saw this in the 'Regiment' magazine. Soon after joining the
Regiment I was issued with such a flash (and wore it). I thought
it was a Regimental flash. I had been told we were destined for
the Second Front but I have no recollection then of this being associated
with the 'Flash'
Ian Gill - Members of the Regiment
may have seen an article in the 'Regiment' magazine (issue 34, page
14) entitled D-Day
Flash - this is a fanciful narrative concerning the flash worn on
our uniform jacket and (I quote) "awarded to all regiments
landing in the first assault on D-Day".
I had no idea how this account of regimental
dress gained a foothold in our history, but I can tell you it is
absolute rubbish. So I think it best if we placed on record the
true origins of the 'Regimental Flash' before it becomes enshrined
in regimental folklore.
I was commanding 3rd Troop 'C' Squadron 4th/7th
Royal Dragoon Guards when the Regiment was stationed in Northern
France as part of the B.E.F. It was in the winter of 1939/40 when
the Commanding Officer received an Army Order from GHQ demanding
"all units in the B.E.F to remove forthwith badges of recognition
from battle-dress" in order to conceal our identity and order
of battle (this took some believing since units of the B.E.F were
constantly being referred to by name in broadcasts from Berlin by
'Lord Haw Haw' over our own Forces Radio frequency). This done how
were to recognise troops in our own regiment without the use of
badges?
The Adjutant Captain (later Major General)
d'Avigdor-Goldsmid suggested we should have a recognition flash
made from a worsted material in the same design as the diamond flash
painted in regimental colours on our steel helmets; the flash to
be worn on the left sleeve of the battle-dress jacket. Some months
later (IHQ (?) made it known that we could retain the use of regimental
insignia after all. Back on the battle-dress jacket went the numerals
and 'collar-dogs', but it was decided to leave the flash on the
jacket and there it remained as an integral part of regimental dress
until, many years later (1992?). it was transferred to the No 2
Dress (Service Dress) tunic.
Those in possession of Brereton's history
of the 4th/7th might care to look at photo plate No 57; the two
soldiers in the right front of the photograph can be seen wearing
the flash on the left sleeve of their battle-dress; this photo was
taken four weeks after our return from Dunkirk in July 1940; so,
please no more about the 'D-Day Flash'.
Alastair Morrison - An order
was received when the 4th/7th were in the B.E.F in Autumn 1939 that
cap badges would NOT be worn - security given as the reason. The
4th/7th designed an arm flash for their own instant recognition,
sewn on the left arm in regimental colours.
Later, I believe when the 27 Armd. Brigade
was formed - 26.11.40 - the 13/18H followed suit with a blue and
white flash.
Tom Tyreman - About that 'D-Day
Flash', I am sure lots of chaps will have given you the right story
by now, but what its worth, here's mine.
I was given them to sew on when I joined
the Regiment in April 1941 - D-Day was not even a twinkle in those
days.
I was told, though by whom I can't remember,
that it was the colours of the Belgian flag and had been awarded
to us after the Battle of Waterloo.
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THE MEMORIAL
Donald Brown - It is difficult
to suggest how to commemorate the Regiment at the Memorial on future
6th June anniversaries when we have all faded from the scene. The
present members of the merged Regiment show little interest and
I suppose there may be more mergers of armoured regiments in the
future.
I suppose the only on going organisation
is likely to be the British Legion and maybe they could play some
part. I hope that somebody is able to come up with a very imaginative
idea.
Eric Johnston - I am very pleased
you have raised the subject of the future representation at the
Creully Memorial on the 6th June. As you know I raised this with
Michael Dangerfield following General Gill's address at the 1996
ceremony. I suggest that this subject is raised with the new Chairman
of the Association Major Noel Santry.
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506th Parachute Infantry Regiment - USA
Deryck True - And again thanks
for a lovely visit in August when you were so gracious to us. We'll
look forward to returning and seeing you again.
Bill True - Say 'Hi' to all
of the people we met on our recent visit.
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Publications
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£8.50 payable to "The Wartime Company", Studland
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