6 Months of Hopes Destroyed

 

 

Dear Brian,

I know many of you are concerned about the recent review of British policy on supporting clemency

pleas. I thought it would be helpful to write to you setting out the position on this, and on the Prisoner

Transfer Agreement.

Clemency

Last year the Foreign and Commonwealth Office conducted a general review of policy on when we

support clemency pleas. It was decided not to change the policy. The primary concern was to ensure that

the policy should be based on clear and objective criteria. This is best achieved by the current guidelines-

only supporting clemency please when there are compelling compassionate grounds to do so, such as

when a prisoner is terminally ill, or when a close relative is terminally ill and their death will leave

children or elderly relatives with no-one to care for them.

 

We looked very carefully at the policy of the Australian Government. Australia supports prisoner's

clemency pleas when they have served a sentence comparable to the one they might have received if they

had committed the offence in Australia. Australian policy relies on the Government knowing what a

"standard" sentence would be for any given crime. This would not be possible in the UK. The only

sentencing guidelines the Home Office produces are those describing maximum sentences. British courts

are allowed wide discretion, based on the circumstances of each crime, deciding what sentence to give

within the maximum allowed. So we could not calculate consistent, fair and accurate "British" sentences

for prisoners sentenced overseas.

If you decide to take advantage of the Prisoner Transfer Agreement that we have with Thailand you can

serve the remainder of your sentence in a British prison. However this does not mean that the UK is able

to change your sentence when you transfer home. Any review of your judgement and sentence is a matter

for His Majesty the King and his advisers. I should add that it is still possible to appeal for clemency and

benefit from amnesties even after transfer to the UK.

 

Once you return to the UK we are bound by the terms of our bilateral Prisoner Transfer Agreement to

continue to enforce the Thai sentence. As you are probably aware our parole system is not as flexible as

those of other countries. For example, the United States has a parole system that allows a prisoner s

sentence to be reviewed after transfer to bring it into line with domestic sentencing guidelines. UK law

does not allow us to make special parole arrangements for transferred prisoners. Returning prisoners are

treated in exactly the same way as prisoners sentenced in the UK and are eligible for release on parole

after serving half their sentences.

 

If there is anything else you would like to know or would like further clarification on, please do not

hesitate to let me or my colleagues know. We will do our best to help. If there are any changes or

developments that affect you, we will let you know.

 

Brian Kelly .

H M Consul

 

 

 April 2000

Six months ago all 8 of us British prisoners in Bangkwang prison, most with life sentence, 2 with 50 year sentence, still had hope that we may yet survive these sentences, but now we have had any small hope we might hold torn away in a series of unfair soul destroying news. Back then we were eagerly awaiting the biggest amnesty ever in Thailand. The King's 72nd Birthday, and in a Buddhist society his 6th 12 year cycle in life. His most important birthday so far. Amnesties can be the only way for some to reduce their sentence to a survivable term and freedom one-day.

As you can imagine our hope for a cut was high, only for the birthday to come and go on the 5th December to find all drug cases (and all 8 of us donkeys) with no amnesty. We were devastated, as no amnesties look to be coming for years to come. Only later that month at our embassies Christmas visit hopes were born again when the consul for Thailand told us that the Foreign Office were having talks with the Home Office headbangers about why 6 out of 8 of us in Bangkwang have refused to take the treaty back to H M Prison to review clemency for support on a Royal Pardon and if possible to review our sentences when back in Parkhurst, as do America, Canada, Oz and France, along with all other European's, with transfer treaties RE "Same time same crime" at this site.

As you can see from the two letters concerning this, one from the Embassy in Bangkok, the other from Tony Blair's office we are gutted to be told that they have decided to basically "leave us to rot", or come back to Parkhurst to rot where it will cost the taxpayer £500.00 per week, for a term of 45 years, 6 months for the ones with life sentence. This after doing 8 years out here as a Thai life sentence is forever, but on transfer is calculated as 99 years and it's 1/2 of your remaining sentence when back in taxpayer land.

 

All this and month after month we watch each other foreigners do 8 years - transfer, then send us postcards after 3 months stateside in prison on parole. It is not only the Americans either as most if not all 27 treaty countries give parole at the worst, maximum sentence for the same crime in home country. We find our situation sickening and hopeless, with us serving decades more than the rest of the foreigners, with any hope of fitting back into society, a dream.

When we were told last year of the review, we were told that they would also discuss that we might follow the Australian system of support for clemency of a Royal Pardon. They put your individual case in front of a judge back home and he will see what sentence you would get comparable with what sentence you would receive if you had committed that crime in Australia, and fully support a pardon at that time. At the moment we only get support if terminally ill, so we get our hopes up on this fact that the British government might use this system, but the Embassy letter states that we can forget about this as well.

Now we are left in a state of hopelessness and as two of the eight are in their sixties they are probably facing death in prison for them, and possibly for all or most of us.

What do we do from here?

Brian Mounsey, Bangkwang. 

 

 

 

29 February 2000

Mr J. Wheeler

Bangkwang Prison

Building 2Nonthaburi l1000

ThailandDear Mr WheelerThank you for your letter of l9th January to the Prime Minister. I am replying as desk officer for consular matters in South East Asia, and I actually came and saw you in January with Kate Dufall.

In answer to your question about changing any policy's we have, last year the Government carried out a general review of our policy on making representations about the convictions and sentencing of British prisoners abroad to the authorities of the countries where they are detained. That review is now finished. Regrettably, the Government has decided not to change its policy.

When we reviewed our policy on supporting clemency plea's last year we looked very carefully at the Australian policy (Australia supports prisoners' clemency pleas when they have served a sentence comparable to the one they might, have received at home). It relies on the Government knowing what a "standard" sentence would be for any given crime. The Australian Judicial Commission advises the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on what the Australian sentence might be in each case. The sentencing guidelines in the UK would not allow the same to be done here. The only sentencing guidelines the Home Office produce are those describing maximum sentences. Our courts are allowed wide discretion based on the circumstances of each crime, deciding what sentence to give within the maximum allowed. Home Office officials in the Sentencing and Offenders Unit and the Transfer and Repatriation Unit expressed grave concern about our ability to calculate consistent, fair and accurate "British" sentences for prisoners sentenced overseas.

You are probably also aware that our parole system is not as flexible as that of other countries. For example the Americans have a parole system which allows a prisoner's sentence to be reviewed after transfer to bring it into line with domestic sentencing guidelines. The terms of our domestic legislation do not allow us to make special parole arrangements for transferred prisoners. Returning prisoners are treated in exactly the same way as prisoners sentenced here and are eligible for release on parole after serving half their sentence.

I am sorry that this is not the news you want to hear, but if the government decides to review its policies, and they do change, the staff from the Embassy would let you know.

It was good to meet and talk to you, as I've heard so much about you from your mother! I hope you will continue to remain strong and positive even though you are going through a particularly bad time at the moment.

 

Sarah V Taylor

Consular Division

cc. Kate Dufall, BE, Bangkok

 

 

A reply for Foreign Office letter dated 29/2/00

The Americans invent the whole concept of the "Drug Wars" yet their policies are flexible enough so that U.S. prisoners are on the streets within a few months (average 56 days) of their return home from here.

The Aussies probably have more compassion for their guys due to the KANGAROO Court procedure, I suppose.

The French and Germans get a new maximum sentence in their own countries after their return 15-20 years. Their parole rules apply. The Thai time counts as does time for good behaviour. The prisoners having returned can also appeal in their own countries.

Brit's also get a new sentence e.g. if a prisoner has 40 years & has served 8, the British Government take that 8 off to leave a new sentence of 32 years. Then British parole laws kick in and we have to do half. That's not right is it? Half of 32 = 16 + 8 = 24. Na, Na, Na. If they recognise the Thai sentence then half of 40 = 20 - 8 done already =12 saying nothing for good time served etc. But what a ridiculous sentence either way for a first offender, making a one off mistake due to desperation.

Some Brit's still have life sentences (100 Yrs). I had 50 years of which was reduced after the amnesty in 96, I got an eighth cut. Murderers and rapists got a half cut. In the 99 amnesty drug offenders were not included.

A Brit. can only get a clemency support from the Government if they have a terminal illness. There's a loophole there then. One just needs to find an inmate with 'Aids' (of which there are loads) & purchase a little of their blood and inject that into the bloodstream & Bobs your uncle. If you love long enough for a pardon that is. Pardons used to average 2 yrs for an answer either way, but now due to his Majesties health, they are now taking longer. 3 years plus. But I suppose the British Government will even remove that remote possibility of seeing the outside world for a short time. This just seems to be the way they are.

At the end of the day what goes around comes around. So maybe we'll see you in hell Mr Straw. But saying that you'll probably be promoted to Field Marshall down there. Due to the fact that Lucifer and your badself have so much in common.

So, a Westerners only chance is with their government helping them. What with Human Rights & New Age thinking most countries are evolving into the Millennium, the 21st century OK.

Once there were The Ancient Greeks, The Egyptians, and The Roman Empire. Oh, Yeah, and there was once a Great Britain as well.

Every dog has its day! Oh yeah there was once a place called Great Britain as well.

by J. Wheeler.